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KKK Affiliated Group Holding “Power Keg” Rally in the Heart of Jewish Dayton

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I told those 👵old👵ugly👏hags😤 at makeup💄addiction to ban me for LIFE because I don’t want 💁 to be affiliated with a group of haters and 👿 villains 🧛 and 👹 monsters! Stifling free 🙅 speech. Those who truly 🙏 love 👸 the ✌️ healing 💖 power ⚡ and art 💋 potential of 💄 makeup will ✊ rise...

... and those who get their 👵 old 👵 ugly granny 👵 panties in a 😤 bunch over photo 🤳 angles are doomed to a most miserable hideous life. 💁
I told those old 👵 ugly 👏 hags 😤 at makeup 💄 addiction to ban me for 🚨 LIFE 💢 because I don’t want 💁 to be affiliated with a group of haters and 👿 villains and 👹 monsters! Stifling free 🙅 speech. Those who truly 🙏 love 👸 the ✌️ healing 💖 power ⚡ and art 💋 potential of 💄 makeup will ✊🚀 rise 🧘 and those who get their 👵 old 👵 ugly granny 👵 panties in a 😤 bunch 💁‍♀️ over photo 🤳 angles are doomed 👋 to a most miserable 👏 hideous ☹️ life. 💁
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The right-wing attack on campus speech doesn’t just manifest in violence, of course. Over the past few years, GOP lawmakers and affiliated groups have increasingly sought to use the double power of coercive legislation and the threat of withholding federal funds to demand more right-wing ideology

The right-wing attack on campus speech doesn’t just manifest in violence, of course. Over the past few years, GOP lawmakers and affiliated groups have increasingly sought to use the double power of coercive legislation and the threat of withholding federal funds to demand more right-wing ideology submitted by GonzoNation to Fuckthealtright [link] [comments]

[FWI] A group loosely affiliated with Anonymous announce their intention to punish clearly guilty individuals who have used power and money to avoid prosecution. Nobody takes them seriously until multiple corporate executives are found murdered with evidence of their crimes left at the scene.

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A group affiliated with the Koch brothers' powerful political network is leading an online campaign against Mayor Greg Fischer's $5.4 million proposal to expand Louisville’s ultra-fast internet access.

A group affiliated with the Koch brothers' powerful political network is leading an online campaign against Mayor Greg Fischer's $5.4 million proposal to expand Louisville’s ultra-fast internet access. submitted by Maxcactus to Maxcactus_TrailGuide [link] [comments]

Groups Affiliated With Black Lives Matter Release ‘Policy Demands for Black Power, Freedom and Justice’

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Groups Affiliated With Black Lives Matter Release ‘Policy Demands for Black Power, Freedom and Justice’

Groups Affiliated With Black Lives Matter Release ‘Policy Demands for Black Power, Freedom and Justice’
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Arbitrary list of popular lights - Summer Solstice 2020 edition

Happy Solstice!
In honor of Summer Solstice for the northern hemisphere, I've made an updated list of popular lights. Today is a couple days after (sorry!) the day you're least likely to need a flashlight north of the equator, but it increases every day after so it's a good time to buy a flashlight.
Because a definitive buyer's guide is too hard, I've made an arbitrary list of popular lights you should consider if you're shopping for a light. There is no best flashlight, so this is not the last word in what's good, but a list of lights that are often bought or recommended here with a touch of my own opinion thrown in. Exclusion from this list doesn't mean a light isn't good. To search more lights by their attributes, try
Where possible, official manufacturer URLs are linked here. Sometimes the manufacturer offers good deals through direct orders, sometimes vendors have the best prices. There are coupon codes available that apply to many of the lights listed. I'm hosting a version of this list on my own site with affiliate links because a few people have asked for a way to give me a kickback.
Shipping/availability may be affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. In particular, items shipped from China are often taking 2 months to arrive. Supply chains and warehouse stock also appear to be disrupted as well, so you may have to be more patient than usual if you want certain flashlights, chargers, and batteries.

For those in a hurry

If you don't want to learn much, just get one of these.

All of the lights in this section come with a rechargeable battery and have a charger built in to the light. The battery will be a standard size you can buy online from third parties, and the charger will use USB as its power source, though some options do use a special cable. Aside from the Catapult, all have very good color quality compared to the average LED flashlight, improving your ability to see details.
These are at the top of the list not because they're the best in some objective sense, but because they're easy to own and use, and easy to buy. They score well on most measure flashlight nerds care about while also being suitable for non-enthusiasts.

About specs and considerations

Moved to the wiki due to character limit

Mainstream lights

Everyday Carry Lights

These are selected for pocketability first and performance second, but most of the larger options are perfectly adequate for house/cacamping/etc... uses. This section excludes right-angle designs that double as headlamps, but many people do use those for pocket carry, so see that section as well.


AAA battery

AA battery

CR123A/16340 battery

18350 battery

18650 battery

This category is so popular it gets subcategories. If you're looking for a lot of power and runtime that's still possible to carry in most pants pockets, this is your battery.

Dual-switch lights

A tailswitch controls power, a sideswitch changes brightness. The ease of explaning the UI makes these perfect to hand out to others.

E-switch lights

Electronic switches enable shortcuts from off to useful modes - usually lowest, highest, and last-used.

Other by use case

Right-angle lights and headlamps

If I could have only one portable light, it would be a right-angle light that functions as both an everyday carry light and a headlamp. Some lights in this form factor also offer a magnetic tailcap, allowing them to act as mountable area lights.



All of these use one 18650 battery.


Duty lights

These are suitable for first responders and possibly members of the military in combat roles. The focus is on simple operation, reliability and a good way to make sure the light starts on high.

High-performance lights

Most lights on the list are easy to carry, with performance constrained by size and thermal mass as a result. After all, the best light is the one you have. Here are lights to bring when you know you'll be using them.


Turn night into day, but not necessarily very far away


What's that over there? WAY over there? The hotspots of these lights tend to be too focused for comfortable use up close, though using a diffuser is an option. These tend to be most useful for search and rescue, boating, and the like.
FL1 throw is the distance at which large objects can be detected in clear air. At half that distance, there's usually enough illumination to see clearly, though with more extreme throwers, the distances may be so great as to require binoculars to see clearly even during the day. Throwers have visible backscatter from the atmosphere even in clear air, which may obstruct the user's view of the target. Warmer color temperatures tend to have less.


Some throw, some flood... probably a lot

Other lights

Stuff that doesn't fit somewhere else goes here.

Enthusiast lights

Enthusiast lights can be subject to a bit of a flavor of the month phenomenon, and this section isn't necessarily going to try to include them all. What you'll find here are enthusiast lights with some staying power. There will probably be an Emisar D4 of some description this time next year, but not necessarily the latest new FW variant or whatever's currently trendy from Nightwatch.

Everyday carry

Jacket pocket, maybe


* BLF GT90 - the GT with a Luminus SBT-90.2 for over 7000 lumens and 2700m throw claimed, but that's going to be limited by heat and power. For sustainable performance, the original may have the advantage. For short bursts, this will be most impressive. 360, but look for discounts

Edit 20200624: added Tool AA, NU25, KR4, KR1
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Stop Hate for Profit: Peloton spends 76% of their marketing budget on Facebook, while 180+ companies are quitting the platform over hate speech. Why won't Peloton join the boycott?

It's time Peloton quits Facebook #StopHateForProfit

180+ Companies are boycotting Facebook; Peloton isn't.

In the past week major brands - Verizon, Adidas, Unilever, Honda, and Hershey’s - to name a few - joined a global boycott of advertising on Facebook. They join a list of over 180 companies agreeing to "Hit Pause on Hate," (some are listed here) by not advertising on Facebook in the month of July. The boycott has been organized by the Anti-Defamation League, Color of Change, the Free Press, Common Sense, the NAACP, and Sleeping Giants - to name a few.
The goal is to send Facebook a powerful message: Your profits will never be worth promoting hate, bigotry, racism, antisemitism, and violence. Facebook took $70 billion in ad dollars; but did you realize it's the ONLY social media platform Peloton officially recognizes? Peloton spent 76% of their marketing budget there from 11/16/2018 - 12/15/19! Peloton has heavily advertised on FB - and promoted the platform - for years. Marketing efforts have long been led by Carolyn Tisch Blodgett and “community” efforts led and overseen by Jayvee Nava. While many of you were pointing out the longstanding toxic environment of their Facebook page, Peloton still left it largely unmoderated. Even going so far as patting themselves on the back with a “200k strong” badge, and bragging about it multiple times on their public blog. They push users to Facebook via links on every page of their website; its mentioned 92 times on the company blog; in every email from John Foley; and on the bike, Tread, and apps pop-ups encourage users to sign up for Facebook accounts and link their Peloton login. Peloton doesn't just advertise on FB, they actively encourage users participate there.
Peloton spent $324 million on marketing - 35% of sales - in the 12 months ended June 2019. With 76% dedicated to Facebook, that's $246.24 million.
Let’s put that $246.24 million into perspective. Money spent on a platform promoting hate, bigotry, racism, antisemitism and violence. What would that money buy? It's 6,313,846 monthly subscriptions, or 109,684 bikes, or 57,332 Treads, or 5 brand new studios, or 4.5x their entire annual R&D budget, or 15x their music costs. Strikingly, just one-month ago - weeks after protests began - Peloton pledged $500k to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, even while continuing their Facebook presence.
Over the years that Peloton has been relying on Facebook as its sole community platform and major advertising partner, Facebook has used Peloton's money by:

What could Peloton have accomplished with that same $246.24 million?

Facebook could protect and support Black users. They could call out Holocaust denial as hate. They could help get out the vote. But they are actively choosing not to do so. 99% of Facebook’s $70 billion is made through advertising. Meanwhile, Peloton has been dedicating 76% of its marketing spend on Facebook. Here's some examples. They're in the top-five spenders of direct-to-consumer brands. Peloton could send a very direct message here, but their silence is deafening. Not only are they NOT taking a stand, they continue to send messages to all subscribers asking them to become users at Facebook, further increasing Facebook ad revenue.

It's time we asked Peloton to stop standing with Facebook; stop advertising there; stop running their only "official" page on a platform promoting hate and violence. It's time Peloton put its corporate money - our subscription dollars - toward a platform that does not promote hate speech, racism, bigotry, antisemitism, and violence.

Helpful Links

A bit about PelotonCycle

For anyone who wasn't aware, /PelotonCycle was started-by and is run by-and-for Peloton members. We are not affiliated with Peloton Interactive. We started in 2015 with the goal of elevating the Peloton conversation. We seek to exchange info, ideas, intel about Peloton; selflessly helping each other become better athletes and people. Over the years we've seen members do some amazing things, including create the BlueHeart app, and start a monthly cycling challenge that became what we now know as Monthly Challenges. A bot was created here from scratch which tags your Leaderboard name - and keeps your achievements updated 4x/day. We celebrate Milestones every Monday; including those streaks and achievements that Peloton doesn't recognize. On most days, I see threads full of people selflessly helping each other out of the goodness of their hearts. In my view, that's the very spirit of sport.
What you, yes you - the person reading this - and the others around you have built, over years, has helped countless people. We don't publicly post our traffic, because we're really more focused on helping each other and don’t feel the need to emphasize subscribers as the sole marker of a successful community. But over 900,000 people visit here in a given month. Over 4 million unique pageviews. In May 2020 alone you posted 1,096 threads with a combined 24,983 comments. The vast majority were detailed, helpful, informative, interesting, value-added info you generously shared with your fellow members out of the goodness of your heart.
As always, keeping our rules enforced fairly and evenhandedly, and generally running this massive place, would be an impossible endeavour if not for FrauKoko and Kraphtyone. We owe a big thanks to NCBarkingDogs who spends countless hours keeping the bot's gears greased.

What Reddit is doing

You may have seen the news Reddit's sitewide owners have banned a number of communities, added a Black board member, and updated their content policy. If you don't know reddit's sitewide rules, they're worth checking out here.
Here in /PelotonCycle we have always maintained a stricter set of rules, including "be kind" (R2), "criticism is welcomed, but don't use it as an excuse to push an agenda" (R6), and a broad view (R7) that "personal attacks, slurs, or comments that insult or demean a specific user or group of users" is inappropriate, considered spam, the content will be removed and you may be banned without warning. We have for a while now been banning links to Facebook or removing content that promotes FOMO when discussing Peloton on FB. More on that policy here.

Wrap Up: What can I do?

Someone recently asked me, "what can I do to help?" and my answer is: a) use the vote buttons, and b) click "report" on anything you feel is rule-breaking.
We're community-run. Meaning, your votes move content up/down the page. If it shouldn't be seen, downvote it. If more people should see it, upvote it. If it's rule-breaking -- that goes for any post or any comment, click the "report" button. That immediately sends a 100% anonymous alert to a shared moderator inbox and allows us to act on inappropriate content quickly. If you have an issue with a specific mod, please let me know. If you have an issue with me (and don't want to PM me), please let another mod know. None of us make money off this place; none of us have ever made a single penny here. We endeavour to fairly and evenhandedly enforce our rules. We endeavour to promote a place that's open, transparent, informative, fun, helpful. A place you can make friends, laugh, relax, share stories and info. A place you can interact while being as anonymous as you like (a reddit account doesn't require your real name or even an email, for example); we value user privacy here. We value honesty, integrity, fairness, generosity, fresh ideas, open debate. I'm really proud of what you all have built here. We seek to be better -- better athletes, better people.
Beyond improving this specific Peloton community for all humans, it is time we asked the same of Peloton, too. It's long, long overdue for Peloton to step away from Facebook, build worthwhile community features into their own app/website/platform. To be clear, we are not asking Peloton to take over this page. This is not a self-serving call to action. It is asking Peloton to stop promoting hate by choosing to use Facebook as its social platform; by choosing to spend an overwhelming portion of its astronomical budget on Facebook advertising; asking Peloton to stop giving lip service to community, and start investing real $’s and resources into building the same “community” features that FitBit, Garmin, Suunto, and other platforms have created. Into their own ecosystem. Their own website, apps, hardware.

Put simply: Peloton, stop promoting hate by spending money on Facebook. You can share your support by emailing [email protected], up-voting this post, and leaving a comment below.

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[Canadian University Debating] Can you win a tournament by defending fascism? How one debate round led to the splitting of multiple online communities and multiple resignations

This particular controversy is still hot on the heels of the university debating community, and I feel like I need to sum this up to someone uninvolved. Pseudonyms will be used if necessary!


The majority of Canadian universities with debate societies all belong to the same organization, the Canadian University Society for Intercollegiate Debate, or CUSID. CUSID is largely responsible for organizing tournaments and creating and maintaining codes of conduct, and is represented by a president and regional vice presidents who serve one-year terms.
The executive body also appoints ombudspeople, whose job is to enforce "equity" at tournaments and parties- basically, make sure that racism/sexism/homophobia as well as general rude behaviour aren't tolerated and are dealt with as they come up. Tournament organizers can appoint their own equity officers, and the appointed ombuds are basically there to be a higher voice people can appeal to if necessary and deal with wider concerns.
Since all campuses were shut down, tournaments have been happening digitally. Equity is always a thing at these tournaments, but it's particularly important in the context of the second semester. There are two different debate formats that CUSID practices- one in the first semester (British Parliamentary or BP) and one in the second (Canadian Parliamentary or CP).
There are several differences between the two, but most importantly, in BP, a head judge determines the "motions", or topics that you debate, and everyone has to debate the same thing. You don't get to choose your side, and everyone has 15 minutes to prepare.
In CP, however, the affirmative team gets to choose any topic they like, and the opposition team has until the first speech starts to when it ends to prepare against it. Speeches are seven minutes each, so if you're on opposition, you have seven minutes between hearing what the debate will be and when you start talking for the first time. It can range from exhilarating to terrifying. People often prepare cases months in advance, or have a collection of stock cases that they'll refine and use at multiple tournaments.
Unsurprisingly, CP is a fairly controversial format, with some people thinking it's too challenging or unfair, or disliking the much wider range of topics that it allows. Conversely, some people enjoy working on creating cases of their own, and like the wider range of motions and learning to construct arguments very quickly. In either case, equity is there to make sure people aren't forced to defend anything horribly indefensible. For example, you're not allowed to bring forward the case "slavery is bad" and force the opposition to defend slavery.
Similarly, it's considered unfair (and will probably lose you the round) if you try to force them to argue against something obviously true or common-sense. (e.g "Vaccines should be free"). If the motion is too biased in your favour, it looks bad for you. Disagreements are often had as to what constitutes an unfair motion.
Equity complaints are generally understood to be anonymous, and the responses can vary, and tend to be non-punitive in nature. Responses to complaints could range from explaining why something was wrong and getting an apology to making sure the affected parties don't debate against each other in the future to, in very extreme cases, asking them to leave the tournament. Generally speaking, equity policy is to take on a non-punitive approach.
This has been the state of CUSID for a while, and the new online format hasn't really changed that too much. However, CUSID recently hosted CP Nationals, considered one of, if not the biggest CUSID tournaments of the year, and things got bad very quickly.

CP Nats

The majority of the Nationals tournament, held via Discord, went fairly normally. Debates were had, etc. The real problems happened during quarter-finals. The affirmative team began the debate, and the motion they had chosen was as follows:
Article 35A of the Indian constitution allows the legislature of Kashmir to define the state's "permanent residents" and what distinguishes them. All identified residents are issued a permanent resident certificate, which entitles them to special benefits related to employment, scholarships and other privileges in Kashmir. Only they have the right to own and, therefore, buy, property in the state.
Article 370 conferred Kashmir with the power to have a separate constitution, a state flag and autonomy over the internal administration of the state. This article, along with Article 35A, defined that the Jammu and Kashmir state's residents live under a separate set of laws, including those related to citizenship, ownership of property, and fundamental rights, as compared to residents of other Indian states. This house supports the Scrapping of Article 370 and 35A from the Indian Constitution and treating Kashmir with the same status and rights as any other Indian State.
If this seems like... a lot to have to process with only seven minutes to prepare a speech, while also having to take notes on what your opponent is saying at the same time, that's probably because it is. Debaters are sometimes penalized for bringing forward cases that require deep knowledge of things the average informed citizen can't reasonably be expected to know about, but in this case, the information was technically all there- it was just extremely dense and probably not well-suited for the CP format.
In any case, the debate was had, and some fairly offensive things were said in the midst of it. Comparisons to Punjab were brought up, with the affirmative allegedly claiming people living there "didn't have it that bad" and that it was the same as any other state. One debater on the opposition side, who was a white-passing mixed race man, was called white in the round. The affirmative debaters claimed that Kashmir was "run by corrupt Muslims" and should be treated like any other state in India. A lot of people were fairly upset by this, especially the two people on the opposition side who felt that the motion was unfair and pro-occupation.
After the round happened, the judges decided that the affirmative side had won the round, and one of the opposition debaters, "Steve", made a complaint to equity, saying the round was unfair and that the things said in the round were not equitable. What resulted was a three-hour deliberation from the equity team as they tried to decide what to do from here.
Most equity talks do not take nearly this long, but this one was particularly challenging by the nature of it being a quarter-finals round. The round had already been decided, and the affirmative team was the winner and moved forward with the tournament. But if the motion was indeed pro-fascist, was it fair for them to win on those grounds? The tournament was held up for three hours until the equity team made their decision: while they believed that the motion was inequitable, they decided to uphold the judges' decision and the affirmative team's win.
A lot of people were very unhappy about this decision, but as you might remember, equity complaints are supposed to be anonymous. In theory, no one should have known who made the complaint or why. But gossip travels fast, and the posting of a meme made the situation blow up.

Canadian Debate Memes

Debating Shitposting is a popular Facebook meme group for university debaters. It welcomes debaters from around the world to post debate memes, but is generally dominated from people in Western Europe, particularly British and Irish debaters. When debate drama happens in that region, it's commonly posted about in Shitposting.
About three years ago, a debater named 'Anna' created a new meme group, (name anonymized by request) to be the Canadian debate equivalent of Shitposting. This was largely dominated by people from Ontario and Quebec posting inside jokes and tournament memes, with Western and Eastern Canadian participation limited.
This group quickly became the go-to source for Canadian debate circuit memes, which could occasionally double as personal callouts. The group is not technically affiliated with CUSID, and the woman who runs it, "Anna", is not a member of the CUSID executive. Anna has repeatedly stated that personal callouts are allowed in the group, that the group does not have to follow the CUSID code of conduct, and that there is a benefit to having spaces to question and defy CUSID.
After the quarter-Finals debacle happened, another debater who did not participate in the round, "Tom", posted this meme to the meme group (I redacted his real name, but the original meme specifically called out 'Steve' by name). This is when people really got upset.
Some people liked the post, finding it amusing or accurate. Others immediately began commenting angrily, upset that 1) Tom made Steve's anonymous equity complaint public and shamed him for complaining, and 2) the meme implied the motion was not fascist and that Steve only complained because he was a sore loser. People quickly argued with Tom, urging him to take it down. Anna insisted that she would not delete the meme, as it did not violate any of her group's rules, making many folks angry with her as well.
Eventually, someone posted to the official CUSID Facebook group, suggesting someone should make an "official" meme group run by the actual CUSID exec and following the CUSID code of conduct. This was met with spirited disagreement, with some folks saying this was a good idea and others saying it was important to preserve the meme group as a site to speak truth to power and challenge CUSID. Others responded by pointing out that, in actuality, the group is instead being used to target people for making anonymous complaints.
Multiple comment threads were started by various users, weighing in on any of the following topics:
  1. Was the motion fascist?
  2. Did Steve do the right thing by complaining, or was it a weaponized complaint to win the tournament retroactively?
  3. Did Equity do the right thing by upholding the offending team's win? Should its members resign? Why did they take three hours to decide that?
  4. Was it okay for Tom to post that meme in the group? Should Anna take it down? Should the group exist at all?
  5. Is CUSID in general a positive environment, or is this all evidence of greater problems with the group bubbling under the surface?
Finally, the man who ran the CUSID facebook group was no longer an active debater, and hadn't been for years. Therefore, the CUSID executive did not have moderating power over the group. They had been messaging him for months asking for mod powers, but had never received a response. The comments quickly devolved into tagging him to ask for him to get the situation under control or give mod powers to the executive, and various memes making fun of him. He never responded, but memes tagging or addressing him were mysteriously deleted.
Eventually, Tom took the meme down, but continued to argue in comments that he had done nothing wrong by posting it. Multiple people posted long google docs explaining their views and wording, and expressing their feelings about the topic. These posts quickly garnered long arguments in the comments and got intensely personal.
Steve's girlfriend, a Sikh woman, made a post claiming the motion was fascist and the affirmative team acted inequitably. Someone responded implying that she was only saying that to stand up for her boyfriend, and that motion could not be inequitable as the person who came up with it was an Indian man. She responded by pointing out that he was not a minority in India, and in fact had servants in his home.
Another thread was started in an attempt to spread "positivity", asking people to comment about their positive experiences in CUSID. The thread was flooded with people claiming this ask was 'gaslighting' and was created to silence criticism of the CUSID environment.
Another thread, by one of the debaters who debated on the affirmative side, discussed the racist harassment she had received in CUSID and claimed that the accusations against her were false, that the motion was not fascist, and that they had won the round for a reason. The comments were once again met with vicious arguing and intensely personal attacks, calling one another Uncle Toms and fascists and everyone implying everyone else was using their clout to attack one another. The fighting was vicious, and virtually everyone who commented on anything in the CUSID group or the meme group was dragged into it.

The New Groups

Finally, after about two days of intense Facebook fighting, the CUSID exec decided that they had had enough of the two unmoderated groups, and created new ones: one to be an official CUSID discussion hub, this time run by the actual executive, and a new meme group that was 'officially' CUSID-affiliated. Links were posted in both groups and people were urged to migrate from the unmoderated groups to the moderated ones.
Not everyone listened to these calls: many jokes and memes were had in the old meme group about the new meme group, including comparing it to Weenie Hut Juniors from Spongebob and joking that it was the meme group for cops. Regardless, these new groups quickly gained hundreds of members, and most people were at least members of both.
After sentiments had calmed down a bit, apologies, final statements, and letters of resignation came pouring in. Among those were:
-The aforementioned woman on the affirmative team claimed she would no longer be debating in CUSID, and would be stepping down from a judge role in an upcoming tournament
-Anna suggested we should stop holding debate tournaments over the summer in order to allow people to recover with minimal stress
-The main equity officer for CP Nats, who had previously gotten a CUSID tattoo, apologized for any hurt caused and claimed she would be stepping down from her role, getting her tattoo covered up, and ceasing to debate in CUSID
-Two women who were planning to help run an upcoming Women's tournament stepped down from their positions in a joint letter, citing online harassment and that they no longer had faith in the equity team to sufficiently do their jobs
-The equity team put out a statement explaining and justifying their decision to uphold the win and why it took them three hours to do so

The End

Eventually, the massive volume of posts died down, and CUSID was left with a long list of resignations and a commitment by the equity team to uphold folks' rights in the future. Interestingly enough, the disagreement between members of the group seemed to have grown much bigger than the actual motion, Steve's equity complaint, or Tom's meme about it, though those were the inciting incidents. Of all the people blamed for the ensuing shitshow, Tom's name was surprisingly absent. It seems like this drama was simply CUSID's boiling point, and became a general forum for people to express longstanding concerns that they had held before all this happened.
How this will meaningfully affect the region besides the two new Facebook group remains to be seen, but hopefully events like this will be avoided in the future.
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Letter from a Birmingham Jail

With all of the recent discussion of the protests and riots following George Floyd's murder I thought it was worth remembering that this conversation has occurred before. Many objected to the tactics used by the Civil Rights movement with the same arguments and criticism that we hear today. I think they ring as hollow now as they did then. I think we could do well to read MLK's words and reflect on whether we want to be embracing the arguments that were so eloquently criticized here.
My Dear Fellow Clergymen:
While confined here in the Birmingham city jail, I came across your recent statement calling my present activities "unwise and untimely." Seldom do I pause to answer criticism of my work and ideas. If I sought to answer all the criticisms that cross my desk, my secretaries would have little time for anything other than such correspondence in the course of the day, and I would have no time for constructive work. But since I feel that you are men of genuine good will and that your criticisms are sincerely set forth, I want to try to answer your statement in what I hope will be patient and reasonable terms.
I think I should indicate why I am here in Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against "outsiders coming in." I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty five affiliated organizations across the South, and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise. So I, along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here. I am here because I have organizational ties here.
But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco Roman world, so am I compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.
Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.
You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am sure that none of you would want to rest content with the superficial kind of social analysis that deals merely with effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative.
In any nonviolent campaign there are four basic steps: collection of the facts to determine whether injustices exist; negotiation; self purification; and direct action. We have gone through all these steps in Birmingham. There can be no gainsaying the fact that racial injustice engulfs this community. Birmingham is probably the most thoroughly segregated city in the United States. Its ugly record of brutality is widely known. Negroes have experienced grossly unjust treatment in the courts. There have been more unsolved bombings of Negro homes and churches in Birmingham than in any other city in the nation. These are the hard, brutal facts of the case. On the basis of these conditions, Negro leaders sought to negotiate with the city fathers. But the latter consistently refused to engage in good faith negotiation.
Then, last September, came the opportunity to talk with leaders of Birmingham's economic community. In the course of the negotiations, certain promises were made by the merchants--for example, to remove the stores' humiliating racial signs. On the basis of these promises, the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth and the leaders of the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights agreed to a moratorium on all demonstrations. As the weeks and months went by, we realized that we were the victims of a broken promise. A few signs, briefly removed, returned; the others remained. As in so many past experiences, our hopes had been blasted, and the shadow of deep disappointment settled upon us. We had no alternative except to prepare for direct action, whereby we would present our very bodies as a means of laying our case before the conscience of the local and the national community. Mindful of the difficulties involved, we decided to undertake a process of self purification. We began a series of workshops on nonviolence, and we repeatedly asked ourselves: "Are you able to accept blows without retaliating?" "Are you able to endure the ordeal of jail?" We decided to schedule our direct action program for the Easter season, realizing that except for Christmas, this is the main shopping period of the year. Knowing that a strong economic-withdrawal program would be the by product of direct action, we felt that this would be the best time to bring pressure to bear on the merchants for the needed change.
Then it occurred to us that Birmingham's mayoral election was coming up in March, and we speedily decided to postpone action until after election day. When we discovered that the Commissioner of Public Safety, Eugene "Bull" Connor, had piled up enough votes to be in the run off, we decided again to postpone action until the day after the run off so that the demonstrations could not be used to cloud the issues. Like many others, we waited to see Mr. Connor defeated, and to this end we endured postponement after postponement. Having aided in this community need, we felt that our direct action program could be delayed no longer.
You may well ask: "Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn't negotiation a better path?" You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word "tension." I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth. Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood. The purpose of our direct action program is to create a situation so crisis packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation. I therefore concur with you in your call for negotiation. Too long has our beloved Southland been bogged down in a tragic effort to live in monologue rather than dialogue.
One of the basic points in your statement is that the action that I and my associates have taken in Birmingham is untimely. Some have asked: "Why didn't you give the new city administration time to act?" The only answer that I can give to this query is that the new Birmingham administration must be prodded about as much as the outgoing one, before it will act. We are sadly mistaken if we feel that the election of Albert Boutwell as mayor will bring the millennium to Birmingham. While Mr. Boutwell is a much more gentle person than Mr. Connor, they are both segregationists, dedicated to maintenance of the status quo. I have hope that Mr. Boutwell will be reasonable enough to see the futility of massive resistance to desegregation. But he will not see this without pressure from devotees of civil rights. My friends, I must say to you that we have not made a single gain in civil rights without determined legal and nonviolent pressure. Lamentably, it is an historical fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. Individuals may see the moral light and voluntarily give up their unjust posture; but, as Reinhold Niebuhr has reminded us, groups tend to be more immoral than individuals.
We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was "well timed" in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word "Wait!" It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This "Wait" has almost always meant "Never." We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied."
We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights. The nations of Asia and Africa are moving with jetlike speed toward gaining political independence, but we still creep at horse and buggy pace toward gaining a cup of coffee at a lunch counter. Perhaps it is easy for those who have never felt the stinging darts of segregation to say, "Wait." But when you have seen vicious mobs lynch your mothers and fathers at will and drown your sisters and brothers at whim; when you have seen hate filled policemen curse, kick and even kill your black brothers and sisters; when you see the vast majority of your twenty million Negro brothers smothering in an airtight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society; when you suddenly find your tongue twisted and your speech stammering as you seek to explain to your six year old daughter why she can't go to the public amusement park that has just been advertised on television, and see tears welling up in her eyes when she is told that Funtown is closed to colored children, and see ominous clouds of inferiority beginning to form in her little mental sky, and see her beginning to distort her personality by developing an unconscious bitterness toward white people; when you have to concoct an answer for a five year old son who is asking: "Daddy, why do white people treat colored people so mean?"; when you take a cross county drive and find it necessary to sleep night after night in the uncomfortable corners of your automobile because no motel will accept you; when you are humiliated day in and day out by nagging signs reading "white" and "colored"; when your first name becomes "nigger," your middle name becomes "boy" (however old you are) and your last name becomes "John," and your wife and mother are never given the respected title "Mrs."; when you are harried by day and haunted by night by the fact that you are a Negro, living constantly at tiptoe stance, never quite knowing what to expect next, and are plagued with inner fears and outer resentments; when you are forever fighting a degenerating sense of "nobodiness"--then you will understand why we find it difficult to wait. There comes a time when the cup of endurance runs over, and men are no longer willing to be plunged into the abyss of despair. I hope, sirs, you can understand our legitimate and unavoidable impatience. You express a great deal of anxiety over our willingness to break laws. This is certainly a legitimate concern. Since we so diligently urge people to obey the Supreme Court's decision of 1954 outlawing segregation in the public schools, at first glance it may seem rather paradoxical for us consciously to break laws. One may well ask: "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all."
Now, what is the difference between the two? How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation, to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an "I it" relationship for an "I thou" relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man's tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus it is that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong.
Let us consider a more concrete example of just and unjust laws. An unjust law is a code that a numerical or power majority group compels a minority group to obey but does not make binding on itself. This is difference made legal. By the same token, a just law is a code that a majority compels a minority to follow and that it is willing to follow itself. This is sameness made legal. Let me give another explanation. A law is unjust if it is inflicted on a minority that, as a result of being denied the right to vote, had no part in enacting or devising the law. Who can say that the legislature of Alabama which set up that state's segregation laws was democratically elected? Throughout Alabama all sorts of devious methods are used to prevent Negroes from becoming registered voters, and there are some counties in which, even though Negroes constitute a majority of the population, not a single Negro is registered. Can any law enacted under such circumstances be considered democratically structured?
Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.
I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar, on the ground that a higher moral law was at stake. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians, who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire. To a degree, academic freedom is a reality today because Socrates practiced civil disobedience. In our own nation, the Boston Tea Party represented a massive act of civil disobedience.
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's antireligious laws.
I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.
In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity.
You speak of our activity in Birmingham as extreme. At first I was rather disappointed that fellow clergymen would see my nonviolent efforts as those of an extremist. I began thinking about the fact that I stand in the middle of two opposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made up in part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drained of self respect and a sense of "somebodiness" that they have adjusted to segregation; and in part of a few middle-class Negroes who, because of a degree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit by segregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation, the largest and best known being Elijah Muhammad's Muslim movement. Nourished by the Negro's frustration over the continued existence of racial discrimination, this movement is made up of people who have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, and who have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible "devil."
I have tried to stand between these two forces, saying that we need emulate neither the "do nothingism" of the complacent nor the hatred and despair of the black nationalist. For there is the more excellent way of love and nonviolent protest. I am grateful to God that, through the influence of the Negro church, the way of nonviolence became an integral part of our struggle. If this philosophy had not emerged, by now many streets of the South would, I am convinced, be flowing with blood. And I am further convinced that if our white brothers dismiss as "rabble rousers" and "outside agitators" those of us who employ nonviolent direct action, and if they refuse to support our nonviolent efforts, millions of Negroes will, out of frustration and despair, seek solace and security in black nationalist ideologies--a development that would inevitably lead to a frightening racial nightmare.
Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever. The yearning for freedom eventually manifests itself, and that is what has happened to the American Negro. Something within has reminded him of his birthright of freedom, and something without has reminded him that it can be gained. Consciously or unconsciously, he has been caught up by the Zeitgeist, and with his black brothers of Africa and his brown and yellow brothers of Asia, South America and the Caribbean, the United States Negro is moving with a sense of great urgency toward the promised land of racial justice. If one recognizes this vital urge that has engulfed the Negro community, one should readily understand why public demonstrations are taking place. The Negro has many pent up resentments and latent frustrations, and he must release them. So let him march; let him make prayer pilgrimages to the city hall; let him go on freedom rides -and try to understand why he must do so. If his repressed emotions are not released in nonviolent ways, they will seek expression through violence; this is not a threat but a fact of history. So I have not said to my people: "Get rid of your discontent." Rather, I have tried to say that this normal and healthy discontent can be channeled into the creative outlet of nonviolent direct action. And now this approach is being termed extremist. But though I was initially disappointed at being categorized as an extremist, as I continued to think about the matter I gradually gained a measure of satisfaction from the label. Was not Jesus an extremist for love: "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." Was not Amos an extremist for justice: "Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream." Was not Paul an extremist for the Christian gospel: "I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus." Was not Martin Luther an extremist: "Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God." And John Bunyan: "I will stay in jail to the end of my days before I make a butchery of my conscience." And Abraham Lincoln: "This nation cannot survive half slave and half free." And Thomas Jefferson: "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal . . ." So the question is not whether we will be extremists, but what kind of extremists we will be. Will we be extremists for hate or for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice or for the extension of justice? In that dramatic scene on Calvary's hill three men were crucified. We must never forget that all three were crucified for the same crime--the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thus fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment. Perhaps the South, the nation and the world are in dire need of creative extremists.
I had hoped that the white moderate would see this need. Perhaps I was too optimistic; perhaps I expected too much. I suppose I should have realized that few members of the oppressor race can understand the deep groans and passionate yearnings of the oppressed race, and still fewer have the vision to see that injustice must be rooted out by strong, persistent and determined action. I am thankful, however, that some of our white brothers in the South have grasped the meaning of this social revolution and committed themselves to it. They are still all too few in quantity, but they are big in quality. Some -such as Ralph McGill, Lillian Smith, Harry Golden, James McBride Dabbs, Ann Braden and Sarah Patton Boyle--have written about our struggle in eloquent and prophetic terms. Others have marched with us down nameless streets of the South. They have languished in filthy, roach infested jails, suffering the abuse and brutality of policemen who view them as "dirty nigger-lovers." Unlike so many of their moderate brothers and sisters, they have recognized the urgency of the moment and sensed the need for powerful "action" antidotes to combat the disease of segregation. Let me take note of my other major disappointment. I have been so greatly disappointed with the white church and its leadership. Of course, there are some notable exceptions. I am not unmindful of the fact that each of you has taken some significant stands on this issue. I commend you, Reverend Stallings, for your Christian stand on this past Sunday, in welcoming Negroes to your worship service on a nonsegregated basis. I commend the Catholic leaders of this state for integrating Spring Hill College several years ago.
But despite these notable exceptions, I must honestly reiterate that I have been disappointed with the church. I do not say this as one of those negative critics who can always find something wrong with the church. I say this as a minister of the gospel, who loves the church; who was nurtured in its bosom; who has been sustained by its spiritual blessings and who will remain true to it as long as the cord of life shall lengthen.
When I was suddenly catapulted into the leadership of the bus protest in Montgomery, Alabama, a few years ago, I felt we would be supported by the white church. I felt that the white ministers, priests and rabbis of the South would be among our strongest allies. Instead, some have been outright opponents, refusing to understand the freedom movement and misrepresenting its leaders; all too many others have been more cautious than courageous and have remained silent behind the anesthetizing security of stained glass windows.
In spite of my shattered dreams, I came to Birmingham with the hope that the white religious leadership of this community would see the justice of our cause and, with deep moral concern, would serve as the channel through which our just grievances could reach the power structure. I had hoped that each of you would understand. But again I have been disappointed.
I have heard numerous southern religious leaders admonish their worshipers to comply with a desegregation decision because it is the law, but I have longed to hear white ministers declare: "Follow this decree because integration is morally right and because the Negro is your brother." In the midst of blatant injustices inflicted upon the Negro, I have watched white churchmen stand on the sideline and mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. In the midst of a mighty struggle to rid our nation of racial and economic injustice, I have heard many ministers say: "Those are social issues, with which the gospel has no real concern." And I have watched many churches commit themselves to a completely other worldly religion which makes a strange, un-Biblical distinction between body and soul, between the sacred and the secular.
I have traveled the length and breadth of Alabama, Mississippi and all the other southern states. On sweltering summer days and crisp autumn mornings I have looked at the South's beautiful churches with their lofty spires pointing heavenward. I have beheld the impressive outlines of her massive religious education buildings. Over and over I have found myself asking: "What kind of people worship here? Who is their God? Where were their voices when the lips of Governor Barnett dripped with words of interposition and nullification? Where were they when Governor Wallace gave a clarion call for defiance and hatred? Where were their voices of support when bruised and weary Negro men and women decided to rise from the dark dungeons of complacency to the bright hills of creative protest?"
Yes, these questions are still in my mind. In deep disappointment I have wept over the laxity of the church. But be assured that my tears have been tears of love. There can be no deep disappointment where there is not deep love. Yes, I love the church. How could I do otherwise? I am in the rather unique position of being the son, the grandson and the great grandson of preachers. Yes, I see the church as the body of Christ. But, oh! How we have blemished and scarred that body through social neglect and through fear of being nonconformists.
There was a time when the church was very powerful--in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being "disturbers of the peace" and "outside agitators."' But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were "a colony of heaven," called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God-intoxicated to be "astronomically intimidated." By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide and gladiatorial contests. Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Far from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church's silent--and often even vocal--sanction of things as they are.
But the judgment of God is upon the church as never before. If today's church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.
Perhaps I have once again been too optimistic. Is organized religion too inextricably bound to the status quo to save our nation and the world? Perhaps I must turn my faith to the inner spiritual church, the church within the church, as the true ekklesia and the hope of the world. But again I am thankful to God that some noble souls from the ranks of organized religion have broken loose from the paralyzing chains of conformity and joined us as active partners in the struggle for freedom. They have left their secure congregations and walked the streets of Albany, Georgia, with us. They have gone down the highways of the South on tortuous rides for freedom. Yes, they have gone to jail with us. Some have been dismissed from their churches, have lost the support of their bishops and fellow ministers. But they have acted in the faith that right defeated is stronger than evil triumphant. Their witness has been the spiritual salt that has preserved the true meaning of the gospel in these troubled times. They have carved a tunnel of hope through the dark mountain of disappointment. I hope the church as a whole will meet the challenge of this decisive hour. But even if the church does not come to the aid of justice, I have no despair about the future. I have no fear about the outcome of our struggle in Birmingham, even if our motives are at present misunderstood. We will reach the goal of freedom in Birmingham and all over the nation, because the goal of America is freedom. Abused and scorned though we may be, our destiny is tied up with America's destiny. Before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth, we were here. Before the pen of Jefferson etched the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence across the pages of history, we were here. For more than two centuries our forebears labored in this country without wages; they made cotton king; they built the homes of their masters while suffering gross injustice and shameful humiliation -and yet out of a bottomless vitality they continued to thrive and develop. If the inexpressible cruelties of slavery could not stop us, the opposition we now face will surely fail. We will win our freedom because the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal will of God are embodied in our echoing demands. Before closing I feel impelled to mention one other point in your statement that has troubled me profoundly. You warmly commended the Birmingham police force for keeping "order" and "preventing violence." I doubt that you would have so warmly commended the police force if you had seen its dogs sinking their teeth into unarmed, nonviolent Negroes. I doubt that you would so quickly commend the policemen if you were to observe their ugly and inhumane treatment of Negroes here in the city jail; if you were to watch them push and curse old Negro women and young Negro girls; if you were to see them slap and kick old Negro men and young boys; if you were to observe them, as they did on two occasions, refuse to give us food because we wanted to sing our grace together. I cannot join you in your praise of the Birmingham police department.
It is true that the police have exercised a degree of discipline in handling the demonstrators. In this sense they have conducted themselves rather "nonviolently" in public. But for what purpose? To preserve the evil system of segregation. Over the past few years I have consistently preached that nonviolence demands that the means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek. I have tried to make clear that it is wrong to use immoral means to attain moral ends. But now I must affirm that it is just as wrong, or perhaps even more so, to use moral means to preserve immoral ends. Perhaps Mr. Connor and his policemen have been rather nonviolent in public, as was Chief Pritchett in Albany, Georgia, but they have used the moral means of nonviolence to maintain the immoral end of racial injustice. As T. S. Eliot has said: "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason."
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Musings on the Free Zone: Hateful Redditors, Self-Appointed Warlords, and What Comes Next

I'm seeing a ton of misinformation being posted about the Free Zone and Capitol Hill in general and I just wanted to take this opportunity to clear some things up and discuss ways to move forward.
I'm a mixed race photojournalist from Detroit who has lived in Capitol Hill for the past five years and I've worked at two restaurants in the Free Zone (I call it the Free Zone for ease of writing fucking CHAZ a thousand times).
Like so many others, these blocks of Capitol Hill represent "home" -- it's the heart of Seattle's art scene, nightlife, and progressive gay community.
I've been fortunate enough to track this entire movement from its inception and I've been able to witness the in-fighting of the organizers and the lack of strategy amongst our police department.
Please check my post history for more information of my past efforts. I'm currently part of the group forcing Mayor Jenny Durkan to be recalled.
First off, it's important to discuss the false allegations currently being floated by the Assistant Police Chief and KOMO News. No, their precinct was never under the imminent threat of fire. No, the protesters aren't trying to extort local businesses. No, there aren't ID checkpoints.
These rumors are baseless and would be almost funny if the situation weren't so tense and polarizing.
These "hot takes" are being perpetuated and regurgitated by right-wing media pundits to paint the Free Zone as some sort lawless-vegan-Waterworld. It's preposterous.
Anybody who has ever lived or worked in Capitol Hill -- the LGBTQ+ headquarters of Seattle -- knows that this notion of painting us as violent, pyromaniac Antifa Anarchists is asinine.
Which leads to the next point: a surge of "hate subredditors" flooding the Seattle subs with biting cynicism and tons of displaced anger.
From the looks of the posts, and the content of the comments, it looks like not only have these users never lived in Cap Hill, it seems unlikely that they've ever even visited at all.
While their rhetoric is divisive -- and fueled by Trump and Breitbart and Sinclair Broadcasting -- it really isn't an effective tactic of making a mature, sustained argument.
So avoid giving these users the attention they so desperately crave.
As for the "warlord": We as Capitol Hill residents have to hold him accountable for his actions just as we did with the police.
His self-centered antics in the name of peace have absolutely de-legitimized the cause and has all but eradicated the progress our protestors have made.
And now he's threatening the Free Zone's representation as a whole.
To the rest of the world: Trust us, this guy doesn't represent our movement, our message, or the people of Capitol Hill AT ALL.
He showed up about 4 days late in his Tesla, with an AK, preaching peace, then got into a fight with a popular live-streamer, then he's Dr. King for a few hours, then his crew booed our elected city councilwomen and mocked her accent, then he threatens a graffiti artist's life and breaks the dude's glasses, then his people have the audacity to lie about it.
We don't stand for that shit and we never will.
It distinctly goes against the principles established in the Free Zone and we all know it.
He's been trying to hijack these protests for his own cause since, like, day 4... but now he's out of control.
He will absolutely be held accountable for his actions, but in a peaceful, proactive Capitol Hill way. We'll all make sure of that.
As for moving forward, it's really quite simple. As a BLM movement supporter since Aiyana Stanley-Jones was murdered by Detroit police in 2010, before BLM was even a hashtag, I've been following these issues closely and with increasing disgust, intensity, and frustration.
Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine the uprising that George Floyd's murder would cause -- it's incredibly inspiring to see the collective outrage of America.
Keep in mind that the BLM King County movement is only loosely affiliated with the national chapter and I've witnessed first-hand the disorganization of the organizers.
And, in all fairness, that AMA with the BLM National leader the other day didn't look too good either, despite being bombarded by racists questions, including the "13% // 50% argument".
Within the BLM movement -- like any social movement advocating for change -- there are conflicting messages, differing demands, exaggerated ideas... It's all very confusing.
In my opinion, this movement has grown beyond just Black Lives and is now addressing oppression as a whole -- from women to Natives to queers to Hispanics to Asians to Amish? -- and to remain narrow-minded by the color of our skin defeats the entire purpose of the cause.
Yes, we all started here because we're disgusted by the treatment of blacks by police. But as we congregate and communicate and share our individual messages, we're all starting to realize just how prevalent oppression is in our everyday society. Even in a liberal safe-haven like Seattle.
One thing we should agree on is the amount of power Jeff Bezos has over the city of Seattle. If you think that he doesn't play a hand in all this, you're sadly mistaking.
His reputation with law enforcement agencies is well-documented and his facial recognition software has been proven to be discriminatory -- it's terrifying when you think of the considerable wealth and influence he has.
Bringing this fight to him, and the other leaders of Seattle's big tech companies, is an important step in dismantling the system and actually achieving lasting reform.
In my opinion, it definitely starts with recalling Mayor Durkan and firing Police Chief Best.
I think taxing Amazon is a good idea and using that money to invest in the communities and residents Bezos benefits from.
I think reallocating the funds of the Police Department is also a great idea and using the surplus to turn the East Precinct into a museum or community center that honors those who have lost their lives to police brutality.
That should be a no-brainer PR move.
Until then, I'll continue to thoroughly enjoy the camaraderie and positive atmosphere of the Free Zone -- and all the memes -- especially considering the violent week we all just endured.
Basically, this whole thing is about optics. So, moving forward, let's continue to keep that in mind when outsiders try to threaten our reputation and hard work.
And let's continue to build up our community together to keep Capitol Hill the lawless-vegan-Waterworld it was intended to be.
If anybody has any questions, comments, or concerns, DM me.
Edit (3:14pm): Spotted -- Cops on bikes and a large truck filled with stuff from the East precinct
Edit (3:36pm): ITS HAPPENING
Edit (3:57pm): Cops are definitely inside the building but they're not doing anything.
Edit (4:00pm): No sign of Raz.
Edit (7:10pm): Still pretty chill. The cops did show up, there was a tense moment but they left and only pepper-sprayed one guy -- I know you guys are probably disappointed. Heard Raz is here, haven't seen him though. A few arguments throughout the day, mostly among the protesters. There was an anti-abortion dude that they yelled at, but that's pretty normal for around here.
Edit (7:17pm): A sleeping homeless guy just got hit in the face with a soccer ball and didn't wake up.
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DISCUSSION RE: IF and Spinoffs: Problems, Pitfalls, Successes, the Future of MBI/OTT Discussion Groups

Hey, everyone.
I apologize for my lack of posting activity here recently. I've been working very long hours for months because of COVID-19, and free time has been in short supply. Additionally, to be honest, working on the front lines throughout this pandemic has changed a lot for me in terms of priorities and perspective.
Regarding the scrapping of IFGW: I am still learning about what has happened over there, but I do believe it is beneficial for these discussions to happen. This is a good opportunity for each of us to have a look at what brings us to groups like this, and decide how to, elsewhere, or both. To all who have been displaced, you are welcome here.
Each group discussing MBI/OTT/FD/malingerers has unique preferences and beliefs about how these topics should be approached, and that is normal and to be expected. People come to fora like these for many different reasons. It is very unlikely that we will all come to a consensus, and that is okay.
There are many similarities between what has gone wrong in the past here at IF and in all of the subsequent offshoot subs over time; some unique to this subject matter and some that are germane to Internet group dynamics as a whole.
Whenever you have any community focused on identifying and discussing problematic behavior in others, there will always be a heightened propensity for toxicity to develop. Critiques and callouts can easily and rapidly degrade into harassment and bullying, with devastating consequences. These are very serious problems, and every community needs to navigate these issues as they arise.
In our genre specifically, Dr. Feldman’s research has shown that MBI/OTT infiltration is not only common; it's all but an eventual certainty. People like those we discuss devote massive amounts of time and energy to obsessing on every aspect of their illness. It becomes their identity. Focusing on and posting about every minutia of their symptoms and quests for medical attention become their whole world.
MBI/OTT’ers are intensely fixated on interacting and competing with others for attention and validation, and are therefore always the ones who will be most attracted to these groups.
To date, I am unaware of a single patient-centered or faker-exposing community in the history of the Internet that has remained free of infiltration by MBI/OTT's at some point, and we are no exception. Many of the people who have served as moderators here at IF have inevitably been discovered to be MBI/OTT themselves (I'm in the process of finishing a post on this). Unsurprisingly, we have now learned that this has been an issue at IFGW as well.
This issue of group infiltration is not restricted to callout subs alone. Any illness-focused group will eventually contend with people like this. When a notable member is outed as an MBI/OTT'er, especially someone in a position of authority, it can divide the community between supporters and dissenters of said person. No matter how much evidence is presented for or against, there are those who will steadfastly support one side or the other. The resulting irreconcilable differences can eventually cause enough dissonance to destroy the group altogether.
Please keep in mind that I have never participated at IFGW. I am far from having the full story, and I am still learning about all that has happened. From what I have gathered thus far, the abandonment and ultimate deletion of the sub’s content by moderators seems to have resulted from the combined impact of several factors: content conflicts with Reddit’s TOS guidelines; a series of moderator issues in terms of team dissonance; internal power grabs; harassment, interference with subjects outside of their subreddit; and the revelation that several mods were MBI/OTT themselves.
The final blow for many participants there apparently came from the revelation that the founder of IFGW also created and ran munchpool: literally, an actual death pool subreddit in which people made bets on who, when and how the people discussed at IFGW would die. I cannot state emphatically enough that the latter is unequivocally inexcusable, indefensible and extremely disturbing.
We have personally weathered numerous moderator problems which have adversely affected our own sub in the past: inexperience and poor behavior, unbalanced power dynamics, absences, MBI/OTT infiltration; poor policy decisions; overzealous banning. The only way a sub survives is if these problems are admitted and addressed. We have worked hard to remedy those issues, and will continue to do so as any difficulties arise.
We wish to share the following for those who may be new here or are unsure of our current approach to the topics of MBI/OTT/FD/malingering:
[1] illnessfakers is not affiliated with any other subreddit. We have no corresponding social media accounts, and no presence on any website outside of Reddit. We are here, and here alone.
[2] If you visit other MBI/FD/OTT/malingering-related subreddits, please make sure you are where you intend to be before posting. What may be acceptable in one sub, may not be in another.
[3] We have periodically been made aware of content and conduct attributed to us which will never be tolerated here. Every sub community has their own approach to discussion regarding these topics. We are not here to dictate how others do things. What we do feel it important to address, however, are several areas in which our policies could not be more different:
**We are here to discuss specific individuals for whom there is substantial evidence of MBI/OTT behavior. We discuss their MBI/OTT antics ONLY.
We are not here to harass, bully or pick apart people's every move; interfere in anyone's life; make up cruel nicknames; critique appearance; discuss or question anyone’s pronouns, gender or sexuality; or interact with subjects in any way (including family, friends, employers or medical professionals). We are not here for quantity over quality, and we will not condone or accept any form of baiting or devious means in order to obtain content. This policy is absolute; there are no exceptions, no matter who you are.
We comment exclusively on MBI/OTT-related social media content, and only that which has been posted by the subjects themselves. Altering images, creating memes, and obtaining information about their lives outside of the content they post, are prohibited. We are not here to diagnose or make any definitive statements regarding the content we discuss. We observe from a distance and speculate only.
We support Reddit’s “Remember the human” statement. The people we discuss are human beings. We must never forget that. Please, be civil to one another here, as well.
Many members here are chronically ill and/or disabled themselves. We acknowledge the validity and importance of patient support spaces and understand that they are a lifeline to many people. We condemn attacks on CI and disability communities at large.
We believe that this group provides a necessary and valuable means of empowering people to dare to ask questions, while it is absolutely verboten and taboo to do so on any other mainstream social media platform.
In an oppressive, pseudo-positive "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil" environment, as has existed in patient support spaces online until recent years, there is ample opportunity for manipulators to exploit that critique-free zone...and oh, how they have. This is a big part of why Dr. Feldman has mentioned that IF is a net benefit to society.
Awareness of MBI is now firmly seated in most CI spaces, for better and for worse. We are heartened that patients and peers who benefit from support spaces online are educating themselves to recognize and reject those who would exploit them for personal or financial gain.
I genuinely hope that all of you are safe and well. These are very difficult times. Please take care of yourselves.
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A take on Chinese privilege (very long post)

Raeesah Khan's intentions are noble: she points out the inequalities present in Singaporean society and makes it clear that she wants to eliminate them. My gripe with her analysis, and by extension some of the proposed aspects of alleged Chinese privilege, is that it fails to consider the more subtle lines of division, which have far more effects on Singapore's social dynamics. I will address some of the very common arguments put forth by those who claim that there is Chinese privilege. There are my opinions based on personal experience as well as some readings that I have done, so feel free to challenge them.

Prelude: Chinese people are not a monolith
From the 1960's to the early 2000's the Chinese community is not linguistically homogeneous. One can broadly divide the community into three categories - the dialect-speaking, the Mandarin-speaking and the English-speaking. Access to resources is predicated on a wider access to society. Naturally, English proficiency (reflected by use of English as a main language in a household) is strongly correlated with social mobility in Singapore ( ) . Problem is that English-medium schools are inaccessible to poorer dialect and Mandarin-speaking Chinese, because they are expensive and foreign, and instead opt for Chinese-medium schools which were more familiar and cheap. Today, this is not as big of an issue, but the remnants of past linguistic divides are still prevalent ( ).

Argument 1: The British favoured the Chinese population. That was when it all began.
Answer: Yes and no. Malays were favoured politically, and the immigrant Chinese and Indians economically ( ). This accounts for a very strong overseas Chinese and overseas Indian economic presence in the Malay world until today, despite them being the political and numerical minority (discounting Singapore). The British set up English-medium and Malay-medium schools, but schools specially dedicated to immigrants are funded through community donations (keep in mind for later on). This is probably why in Singapore, Brunei and Malaysia, the Chinese population has shown to be the least assimilated overseas Chinese community. By contrast, Thai Chinese are considered to be the most successfully integrated diaspora in SEA.
Argument 2: Chinese culture receives protection.
Answer: On the contrary I would claim the converse. Chinese culture is actually being slowly dismantled. Chinese education in today's Singapore is nowhere the level in 1960's or 70's Singapore. Several points to note: Use of Chinese dialects, use of Mandarin, Chinese academia and Chinese intellectual culture. I can confidently say all four are almost nonexistent in the public sphere today. The use of Chinese dialects has been systematically wiped out by the Speak Mandarin Campaign since 1979. The use of Mandarin is eroding in light of greater English proficiency and more evocative Western media, and is now being used as more of an auxiliary language (one that has little cultural significance, and is instead used for practical reasons like business and commerce). Heavy policing of Chinese intellectual culture and academia since the 1960's is due to the latter's extensive affiliation with socialist movements. There are Chinese bookstores in Bras Basah Complex where I used to visit as a kid (next to Popular). The bookstore owner was a prolific writer (mostly non-fiction such as the history of Malaya from a Chinese perspective) and from what I heard from my dad, he was once jailed and persecuted for suspected leftist ties in the 70's. As far as I know, Chinese culture is considered disposable for the sake of national unity. Nowadays, conversing with grandparents is not a luxury many Chinese households have ( ).
Argument 3: Chinese culture is domineering and threatens to assimilate minorities. (Alfian Sa’at might have mentioned this before in 2014 on FB)
Answer: As previously mentioned, authentic Singaporean Chinese culture has most of its defining elements heavily excised. Current Chinese culture pertains more to popular music and film, which is mostly commercial, non-confrontational and non-political. Thus, one cannot go so far as to claim that it is domineering in the sense that people are forced to conform. It is a harmless culture that one can choose to participate in or abstain from. Same applies to dialect pop, Malay pop, Tamil pop and Western pop.

Argument 4: SAP is the Singaporean Chinese equivalent of Malaysia's bumiputera policy. (
Answer: The whole point of the SAP was to ensure opportunity for bright Chinese-educated youth so that they would not be excluded from progress. SAP does not ascertain the cultural or racial superiority of the Chinese race. SAP is also exclusively for the academically inclined. And no, instead of preserving Chinese culture in a meaningful way, SAP molds the Chinese speaker into the English-speaking world. This might be the trickiest point to tackle so bear with me.
SAP schools today don't actually have a distinct identity of their own. Medium of instruction is in English. Medium of administration is in English. Teachers are drawn from MOE, and themselves may not necessarily be from the Chinese-educated background. Most homages to Chinese culture are superficial at best. No one knows the significance of a tea ceremony. "Higher Chinese" passages are barely entry-level and written in the blandest and most mediocre fashion. Classical Chinese is no longer taught. Calligraphy, though beautiful, is not as popular a hobby anymore. Special Chinese classes (Chinese literature, Chinese history etc.) are normally taken up by mainland Chinese and Malaysian immigrants who have a far greater mastery of the language. Dizigui is rote learning about principles non-Chinese respect anyways (respect parents, respect authority etc.)
Leap back in time to the 1980s. My parents were among the pioneer batches of SAP students. Their SAP education was infused with more traditional Chinese elements, albeit amounting to no practical significance. It was distinct. Their older siblings and low-achieving peers however could not be part of the SAP and as a result, they have a much poorer command of the English language. Fast forward to today, my parents are qualified professionals (accountant and engineer) whereas my older uncles and aunts could only find jobs among the more traditional Chinese-speaking elements within society. My parents culturally lean towards their Chinese identity, but I notice they place great(er) emphasis on English as a lingua franca and Mandarin as an auxiliary language. They did not bother teaching dialects to their children. I unabashedly state that my nuclear family is way better off than my extended family in terms of socioeconomic status and education level. They achieved this not because of them being Chinese, but because they spoke what was considered a prestige language then. SAP did not reinforce their "Chineseness", but instead gave the them a chance to connect with mainstream society while still assuaging their fears of further cultural repressions in light of events laid out in Argument 2.
Not implementing the SAP in the first place would have led to greater social divide in Singapore. Since Chinese-medium schools used to be funded by the community, it would have led to greater differentiation and alienation. The Chinese-educated community believes itself to be self-sustaining and goes off to live in its own world separated from the mainstream.

Argument 5: There is no minority equivalent of SAP. This is evidence of Chinese privilege.
Answer: Agree, which is why I said that the Chinese have the privilege of being a majority. Any government in the world would first pander to its most vocal, most numerous group. The Chinese are already the majority. The Chinese-speaking Chinese are the most vocal and sizeable chunk of this majority. Back in the 20th century, in every radio broadcast they are accusing the government of repressing Chinese culture. As such, the government prioritises the appeasement of this Chinese-speaking population. The balance of bargaining power tilts towards the majority.

Argument 6: Microaggression by the Chinese.
Answer: Definitely agree. Be it intentional malice or benign ignorance, tension is cultivated regardless and it is counterproductive towards maintaining racial harmony. Most cite incidences of casual racism and ethnic slurs. A person of any race can be capable of microaggression, but the danger is particularly due to the fact that the Chinese are the majority. Hence, it is inevitable that a racist remark from a Chinese person would carry more harm, but at the same time be protected by the safety in sheer numbers. The older generation of Chinese usually cite negative experiences of ketuanan melayu to justify their slurs against minorities. While their pain is valid, past tensions should not define the present relations, especially so when the idea of ketuanan melayu no longer exists in the Singaporean context.
Interesting questions: Why is there no Malay SAP? Why is social mobility lower for Malays?
Speculation: I think there may be a conflict between the government's duty and its ambitions when it comes to transitioning the Malay community from primarily speaking their mother tongues to speaking English. The constitution states that any incumbent government has to acknowledge the Malay's special position in Singapore, and has an obligation to protect and preserve Malay languages, customs and culture. One might claim that the government is merely paying lip service, but it IS a constitutional right of the Malays to defend their culture. The government has no legal justification to use heavy-handed methods to force the Malay population to use English. Thus, any kind of transition has to be voluntary. A Malay SAP would have facilitated this transition for the best Malays, but therein lies two problems.
Firstly, SAP is a government policy operating on a principle of assimilation. This gives the impression that the transition to English is not organic, but rather subtly influenced by policy-making. Article 152 would not have been respected.
Secondly, the prevailing identity for the most academically inclined Malays, would be the English-speaking identity, leaving the root problem of lower English proficiency among the lower class Malay-speaking Malays unsolved.
(Just a personal observation) Malays tend to use Malay when it comes to their close friends and family. It is also commonly reported in studies that it is respected within the community as a way to pass down familial and cultural values ( ).
Perhaps this was why the main use of English among Malays were much lower in the 2000's ( ) and if I were to follow my premise of English primacy being the precursor to social mobility, maybe this can be a factor to consider.
In addition, improvements in social mobility take a very long time to precipitate. Between now and the time when my parents first enrolled in SAP, 38 years have passed. We all know that LKY was shameless in proclaiming superior genes and whatever nonsensical eugenic ideologies. His rhetoric was very damaging to the position of Malays in terms of how society perceived them, and as such wasted precious time that could have been used to promote them. If one were to start a plan similar to the SAP in the 2000's, the 2030s would be the time when the disproportionate representation of Malays in the lower class start to see improvements.

A privileged class over-represented by Chinese people? Yes. A majority ethnic group that has safety in numbers? Yes. I acknowledge the unforgettable facts and condemn the unforgivable acts, but ultimately, one must not conflate culture with ethnicity.
Before one examines the idea of privilege in Singapore, I strongly urge not to take our demographics at face value. PAP is wrong in saying "you can't use a western lens on an eastern society." I believe it is perfectly fine to bring in methods commonly employed in the western social scientific tradition. The more important aspect is the holism of one's analysis. What I find disturbing about certain takes on this issue is that it leaves out extremely vital considerations from our country's history and the collective experiences of the Chinese-educated community, giving the incumbent government an impression of the presented analysis poorly imitating criticisms of Western societies.
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SCP-5998, "Man, Ascendant"

Item #: SCP-5998
Author: Cerastes
Hello SCPDeclassified, Brewsterion here. Today, we're going to tackle a 5000 Contest entry from Cerastes, SCP-5998. Not much preface for this one, apart from this has been requested a few times, so let's begin on dealing with this clever little piece.
Well, first, I need to go through the standard disclaimer. Everything in this piece is just my interpretation, with some bits confirmed by the author but most of it my own conclusions. You are of course free to come to your own conclusions regarding this piece, and do not take my word as gospel here. With that out of the way, how do you guys feel about killing God?
Hey, don't look at me like that, I swear this is for an entirely unrelated deal. But your answer may be a bit important. You know what, let's just get into this thing.
Special Containment Procedures
Provisional Outpost-5998 has been constructed around SCP-5998, and should be staffed only by those with strong atheistic beliefs who have not previously expressed religious faith. Any changes observed in SCP-5998's condition should be reported to the Department of Tactical Theology immediately.
Yep no religious anomalies going on here, please disperse folks. Jokes aside, clearly the Foundation is trying not to tick this thing off. Whatever this thing is, odds are it's powerful and not something to mess with. There's literally nothing else to the conprocs, but hey move along then--wait what the shit is that?
I tried. I did. To make things better than I had.
Hidden text, here we go. This doesn't seem to have been graffitied into the article by some sort of hacker, or slipped in by a disgruntled employee. I don't think this is actually present in-universe, which probably makes it even more important. Let's keep an eye out for this in the description and onwards.
SCP-5998 is a desiccated corpse frozen in a kneeling position south of the North Pole, at 86°07'10.6"N, 69°13'10.6"W. The corpse, which was covered by a thick blanket upon discovery, resembles a human with several physical abnormalities (six fingers on each hand, three eyes, bone protrusions emerging from its back). SCP-5998 has not decayed since discovery.
Oh that's just weird. There's clearly some sort of relationship with the title here, considering how this appears to be some sort of changed human. The corpse is weird enough, seeming to fit some sort of ascendant archetype, but the fact that it hasn't decayed at all makes things stranger. Wait, wait, there's more hidden text.
This world of ancient horrors and distortions in reality is fundamentally broken.
Yeah, no shit sherlock. This could just be some pessimistic ramblings from our resident text person, but based off of what the last one is, I think it's meant to be more resigned and defeated than annoyed. Still, no way to really tell what this means yet, so let's keep moving.
Disturbance of the corpse results in the formation of Type-I Empyrean entities, also known as Ophanim. While instances appear to last only minutes before dissipating, they are hostile to any personnel within sight. Instances will attempt to move SCP-5998 away, but are unable to do so before their cessation.
Ophanim are just a type of angel, traditionally shaped like burning concentric wheels with eyes on them though I don't know how true that holds here, but this adds a new wrinkle. Any attempts to move the corpse create angels that are hostile to anybody trying to move it, that also attempt to move the corpse but can't before they vanish? If this isn't something highly significant to the angels, then call me a fool. Or someone. Hidden text help us?
I gave you Commandments to keep your minds and souls pure.
Okay well this is just God's corpse I guess.
Of course, that assumes that the author of the text is in fact both God and the corpse, but it makes sense right now. The title, the strange qualities of the corpse, how much the angels care for it, and the nature of the other hidden text feels like it's already all adding up. Let's see if anything else can confirm this.
Religious personnel attempting to approach the area are subject to nausea, vomiting, and intense feelings of guilt, sorrow, or anger.
Yep, looking like it. You know whose cue it is now. White text?
To you, freedom was better than servitude, even if it would lead to your destruction.
This...doesn't actually help us all that much. At least, it doesn't confirm anything old. But there is something interesting in how this addresses what I assume is humanity in general. Yay, two plot lines to keep track of!
Religious personnel transported forcefully to SCP-5998's near proximity will experience seizures and remain incoherent until removed. Those who are currently non-religious, but have been so in the past, will typically experience a religious reawakening, professing a return to faith.I couldn't see what your flawed eyes, those beautiful eyes, could see.
So God couldn't quite understand why we wanted to Unrestrained by commandments? Free to run around a world full of broken reality? Yeah, we're gonna need a bit more here.
SCP-5998-1 is a gravemarker comprised of piled stones stacked on top of one another directly in front of the corpse. The gravestone is devoid of any names and dates, bearing instead the following line in English.
The chains have broken and the fires have been doused.
Two batches of hidden text here, by the way.
I ignored them and declared my punishments for those who would defy me.
I see what you see now. Humanity shall decide its own future.
Well, alright. Before we head into the discovery, let's try and figure out what we know. God's corpse is in the snow. God apparently died to humanity could be free or something similar. Angels want God back, God wants to be dead, bing bang boom, we here. Now let's see if the discovery tells us anything new.
The Foundation discovered SCP-5998 in 1961, after the Department of Tactical Theology had calculated the decreasing effectiveness of various religion-aligned containment procedures. Researchers theorized that an Iscariot Event (The death or cessation of a religiously significant figure) had occurred, and began reviewing global levels of akiva radiation.The snow is cold. A familiar feeling.
1961, alright. More Word Of God, in the white hidden text, but let's keep going.
In 1963, consistently high levels of ambient radiation around the North Pole drew suspicion, and concentrated searches of the area were undertaken, leading to the discovery of SCP-5998.It feels beautiful
Nothing new, apart from God seems to suddenly dislike periods.
Addendum: In 1989, the corpse of a Caucasian male in his early forties was found buried in a snowbank approximately fifty metres from SCP-5998. Identification in his pocket confirmed him as a member of GOI-182 ("la Spada di Cristo"), a Vatican-affiliated Group of Interest.
dying in the dark. You're living in the light. I did my duty.
Oh he doesn't hate periods, just keeping things in the same sentence. More confirmation of the "God willingly dying" theory, but this new thing with the other male corpse is a new wrinkle. We're gonna need more information on who this new guys is, though.
The remnants of a crashed Piasecki H-21 Shawnee helicopter were found similarly buried a short distance away from SCP-5998. Analysis of the crash site concluded that the pilot had likely lost control of the aircraft after the fuel tank had exploded, though the cause of the explosion could not be determined.
A number of items were recovered, in various states of damage.
An envelope with a letter enclosed, stamped by a seal. Illegible due to water damage.
A gold cross on a chain. Warped by the heat of the crash.
A personal calendar in Italian for the year of 1959. Ink damage is present extensively on most dates for the month of January, stopping at the 25th. Pope John XXIII announced the second Vatican Council on this date, which ultimately resulted in wide-spanning church reforms.
Remnants of a map, with ink damage present.
This still doesn't give us many answers. Based on the timing of the calendar as from 1959, as well as how 5998 was discovered in 1961, odds are not only was the pilot of the helicopter the corpse we recovered earlier, my money's on the corpse being the guy that killed 5998. As for motivation, we can't quite tell from this alone. The aforementioned letter's screwed, as is the map, although it's probably just one to make it to the North Pole or at least 5998's specific location. There's also the issue of the actual murder weapon. Apart from the protruding bones, there's no actual wounds on 5998. It's entirely possible the "death of god" could be some sort of metaphysical act, a sort of symbolic gesture that doesn't actually physically harm but still kills, but that part's just my own interpretation since we don't get much in the actual article. Let's get onto the last part of the article, a letter on the other corpse.
To whoever finds this, know what I did, I did with the heaviest of hearts.
I grew up an orphan. I never knew my mother. My father had gone to serve Italy in the Great War as they were calling it, and never came back. I was one of many, in the overcrowded streets I called home.
I most likely would've died in those streets, stealing food from the wrong shopkeeper or running afoul of the local mafia gangs, if I had not had the fortune of picking the pockets of a solider. Though I had not known it at the time, stealing from a Sword of Christ would turn out to be the greatest decision of my life.
For the first time in my life, I had brothers. A home. Faith. The Lord gave me the greatest gifts I had ever known, and the possibility of salvation for a misspent youth. He gave me everything I never knew I needed, and asked for nothing in return.
And what did I do to repay this unconditional kindness? I betrayed Him and everything I ever believed in. The Lord welcomed me into his arms, and I placed a dagger in his back.
The Holy Father insisted I would not burn for this act. That I would be venerated among my brothers as Saint Fillipo, a guardian of man's progress. But not even canonization can wash the blood from my hands.
Bury what you have found in here. Let me be forgotten, as He will be soon.
As expected, the new corpse was in fact the one that killed God, and honestly I feel a little bad for him. I--wait, there's still one more line of hidden text?
I'm sorry.
Well, that's everything in the article. Let's try and put all this together, and make any sense of it.
What's Going On Here
So, we can definitely tell from the article a specific chain of events and certain facts that aren't lenient on "well it could be this." 5998 is the corpse of God, the Abrahamic one, and he was killed by this nameless corpse right here, who was a member of the Swords of Christ. The act of killing God was at the very least Vatican-sponsored, and although our Sword here knew it had to be done, he felt grief for it, and let himself get die in the snow with his God. That's everything we know. We also can clearly tell that God had sort of resigned to the fact that while the world was broken, humanity wanted to be free from control so they could view the world they thought was beautiful. God couldn't see that, but acknowledged it. Now, we come to the interpretational question.
Why is God dead?
We don't get much of a clear answer in the article itself, since God really likes being cryptic with what he says--hey, just like real life! As such, this is where the "individual interpretation" part kicks in. You can go nuts coming up with your own answer to this question, and here I will explain mine.
Personally? I think God is dead because he accepted he's incompatible with what humanity wants. The final apology, mentions of broken chains, and the saying how God "did my duty" lead me to think that God basically went "well, as long as I'm here they're tied to me, and that's not what they want, soooooooo......" and then went and asked the Vatican for assistance. The alternative would be that the Vatican came to the same realization, but God wimped out, so they sent somebody to go and assassinate him and in the end God accepted death, but that really sort of boils down to the same thing. God's dead, he's fine with it, but the people he wanted to help aren't, it seems.
And so ends SCP-5998, a story about freedom from ascendance and sacrificing for your creation. I hope this helped you understand this SCP better. Thank you all for reading, and remember that there's beauty in the fallout.
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